Christopher Albert and Matthew Slaats bring you into the world of visual art and culture in New York's Hudson Valley and beyond. An intermittently produced podcast featuring interviews with artists and curators and featuring sound works.


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A detail of the copious amounts of material hanging on the wall in Joel Schapira's studio.


The First segment of this week's show continues the last show's theme of taking a break from art.

First, Chris, along with artists Mark DeLura, Peter Acheson (who joined us on the road trip DHRH Episode #30), and Deirdre Swords pay a visit to the studio of Joel Schapira in Connecticut.

Joel tells us about his three month break from painting - which unexpectedly stretched out for two + years.

Below are images from our studio visit with Joel showing some of the works you hear us discuss in this segment.  The captions for the studio visit shots were written by Joel.

This first image is of a painting of a painting - in the same family as the one that finally brought Joel's painting hiatus to an end.

On the left, one of the Wolf Teeth Evermore Agains. it's 36" high x 19" wide. On the right, au la la. it's a housey construction on old pickets...about 5 feet tall.

Vessels by Diane Schapira. painting of vessels by joel schapira. inspired by Morandi.  Our kitchen.

This diptych is a painting and painting of a painting (from right to left). Each panel is 18"w x 24"h. The thing that happened is i discovered that i didn't have to do what i thought i did, so i could do what i wanted to do which was what i needed to do. What if Morandi was painting a self portrait of his bottles? What if i was doing that here?

The method of Joel's creating the pair of works recalls (in Chris' mind) Rauschenberg's exercise in the works Factum I & Factum II from 1957:

Robert Rauschenberg, Factum I, 1957 via:

Robert Rauschenberg, Factum II, 1957  via:

Our audio studio visit concludes with us looking at these two large, pre-hiatus paintings hanging in his living room.

Ah, this painting is Crow Comes. It commemorates  a visitation by crow for five years caw caw caw knock knock on the window just out of sight upper right.  Our living room. Totems to the right of the painting. clay sculptural figure is crow woman - storyteller. then also clay --- full moon house of forgiveness...both by Diane Schapira.

I used to make big paintings and a lot of them were word based. This one combines the message of an old computer screen that said: no new messages on server. ironic. with the no ball playing signs of my childhood in the Bronx. it's about 66" wide x 44' high. I think it's pretty good.

A few more images from our studio visit can be found here.

Mark Handforth's sculpture Wishbone sits in the mist outside of the Hessel Museum of Art.

Next, we hear from Tom Eccles, executive director of Bard College's Center for Curatorial Studies & Hessel Museum of Art, on what exhibits will be coming in this, the 20th Anniversary year of the Bard CCS program, starting with the Matters of Fact exhibit that opened this past weekend.

Finally, we revisit a moment from our interview with Duncan McKenzie of Bad at Sports from (DHRH Episode #1) which sets up an excerpt from Tyler Green's new Modern Art Notes Podcast.

Fred Sandback working on the installation of his work at Dia Beacon back in 2003.  via:

Tyler appeared in our show on Cy Twombly (DHRH Episode #17).   The excerpt we hear comes from the Dec 22, 2011 episode of the MANpodcast in which Tyler and the writer, Andrew Russeth, list their favorite art viewing spaces in America.  Number one on Andrew's list is the Fred Sandback galleries at Dia:Beacon.

Andrea Fraser's essay: Why Fred Sandback's Work Makes Me Cry.

MAN Podcast Links:

 In this segment, Chris mentions:

Bob Edwards' interview with Richard Serra in May 2011.

Kirk Varnedoe's 6 part Mellon Lecture:  Pictures of Nothing: Abstract Art Since Pollock at the National Gallery of Art from 2003.

The MAN Podcast episode featuring Richard Serra.

Thanks to Tyler for letting us use the snippet of the MAN Podcast.  Thanks to Tom Eccles for joining us and thanks to Joel Schapira for letting us all into his home for this episode.  Also, thanks to the Erthlyngz and Vybrainsee for the Dead Hare musical segments

PS, Peter Acheson and Deirdre Swords are teaming up to produce a new art blog:

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So how are we with our New Years resolutions? Still holding strong in March? Or is writing the check each month to pay for your membership as close as you get to the gym? We at the Dead Hare Radio Hour were curious what kind of rules artists where proposing for themselves with 2012.

One of the interesting results of snooping around the web was that we saw several artists considering the idea of taking a year away from art. What does that mean? Why would you do it? What rules do you follow? How does that effect the people we are? We have to thank Eve Mosher for placing these questions in your minds.

So we turned to Eve, Jason Eppink, and Deborah Fisher, all successful artists and creatives, to discuss what a year without art might look like.

Topics that came up in discussion

Art as a form of identity and the definitions we use to define us.



Mythologizing and Narrativizing our work.

Innovation and art’s role in culture shifts


High Waterline

Seeding the City

A Blade of Grass

Socrates Sculpture Park

Maurizio Cattelan

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